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Peter Mamonov: God, no matter what you do not believe in, the important thing is that He believes in you
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– They say that you become a different person. Why?
When I turned 45, I have completely lost interest in life. It seems to have everything – a wife I love, beautiful children, amazing parents, wonderful work, free time, full independence, everybody loves me and I love them. And suddenly ran into what I need was to live. I have a cousin – Builder. Just then he built poselochek the people respected. Lena Filatova and others. And my brother said to me: "Sing, take the parcel of land". And all my life in the city – why should I plot? He says: "at least You come, look". I came, I saw this indescribable beauty of these pine trees, recheck and say, "here I will remain".
The first two years lived alone, because the conditions were difficult. His wife and children were arrivals. And here I remember one winter evening, dark, long, when I suddenly realized that he had lost. Without false modesty I will tell that man I developed and intelligent, so drink this is not. And began to think, why live, for what to me these released 70 or whatever years of life. And my great-grandfather was Archpriest of the Cathedral of Vasily the blessed. Give, I think, I'll molitvoslove – look what they're praying. Read at first with horror and with a certain surprise. Even become a mark of prayer, with which I agree and disagree. I do not remember why – something I felt very stilted or did not come at that moment to my heart. Then it all passed and I realized that everything I need is all there. I was doing repairs at home. Was in the temple to go. The villagers ask: "what are You doing, Peter, to the Church often?", and I said, "You love to drink beer with the guys in the pub all day idle?" – "Like" – "And I've love to go." It was the beginning, but a real encounter with God happened not so long ago, year and a half ago. I couldn't get out of one sin. Could not. And in the morning on Candlemas stood up and suddenly felt that the Lord has filled my heart with love and disarmed me. And all passed. Isaac the Syrian said, "our God is love, this ocean of love". And the reason of the incarnation and the death on the cross, only love for humanity and everything else is secondary.
– Control question: do not those who believe in him God loves?
– One priest said, "God no matter what you do not believe in, the important thing is that He believes in you". God believes in man, he trusts us. We need him, because love is a feeling on both sides. He needs our love. You, as I understand, an atheist, I am a believer, but we remain normal, self-respecting, listening and trying to understand each other people. On the one hand, no one behind the ears in the Church does not drag, on the other – one does not require anyone to abandon God.
I don't know whether there is a God, and adhere to the dual principle: "Think you should basically as if there is no God, and act like he is." It seems to me that Russia has actually quite a complicated relationship with God.
– Not easy. Until 1917, we had such a rich and full life that man has forgotten God. The Lord looked at it and said, "Oh, you don't need me, get Lenin and Stalin." And when we have ceased to worship them, gave us all good. I live in the province and it does not share a common opinion that everything is bad and all steal. People interested in the job, stops drinking. Up to 10 hours of evening work on their land. The houses are all covered in the yard for two cars. I'm a mom to Moscow of our stores carry local products – narofominsky, Obninsk. Milk, sour cream, and sausage – we all cheaper. Here herds of breeding had brought from Holland. How not to rejoice? Or about the young people say all sorts of things, and meet young people and see that they don't need no porn, no ugly advertising. Last year I starred in Sergei Loban in "Dust". He is 24, he made the picture his own money, no one asked for money, taking surgery. Now, it's on the surface, the dust floats and deep – clear water. When it comes to the trolley, a drunken boor, it seems that it is impossible to go. And the remaining forty I sit quietly and go. Here we are sitting in Sochi in the festival of luxury, and people got up at 7am and went to work. I am a Deputy from these people.
In the late ' 80s you were a rocker, and I really liked "Sounds of Mu". Have your own scenic image – such a fool "Protestant". And recently I saw the movie Marina Lyubakova where you and your colleagues to renounce his past, like he was doing something wicked and terrible.
– I to the past really bad attitude. I was then bestial way of life. And the music is just a talent that God gave me. All say: Pushkin, Pushkin... And show me a mother who wanted her son lived a life as lived by her subjects. Genius, what is from God, it is well ordered. But life...
– Do you think that lifestyle and creativity can be divided? I'm not sure if Pushkin led a life of righteous, would remain in history as a great poet?
– I tell you a little story to tell. When our Lord entered Jerusalem on a donkey and shouted, "Hosanna" and threw flowers under the feet of the donkey, she was in full confidence that glorify it. My talent is the Lord for me, donkey, seated. And all of this blasted through my personal, raunchy attitude to life, through my drunkenness, excessive through my nose, through the self-awareness that I am a king, I'm a genius, I'm in charge, I know all that I understood. That's what I was a man, and therefore, their old songs I just hate. I never created images on the stage, it was a sincere cry that in my soul. Now I listen to these songs and see with horror, how I lived, what I was thinking, what he sang. Solid, vodka and so on. Of course, you can say "anti-hero", "negative fascination"... I'm just the receiver. If the receiver "Grundig", the reception cleaner. I need to clean yourself to cleaner to accept the gifts the Lord gives. When I was blinkered, all that went through me, Willy-nilly caught the marshy Tina I was in awe. And even though it was talented, it was scary. This is not the way. It was only destruction. The denial of that life. Maybe at the time and had to act. Because we were scared.
– Many people are yearning for this terrible life.
– That's understandable. In jail-its an amazing place to live. Because you fed, watered, raise, build, and drive to work, do and think about nothing. Hence, all this howling about the old time. I've always been to combine the two configured and howled against this time. It was the right howl, but polluted my personal life.
If he had nothing to your personal life, it would not have acted. And you would not have those Mamonov, who caused us a drive.
Nobody knows what would have happened to us if we hadn't drank so much vodka, would not have changed so women would not be doing so many stupid things. I may be five hundred of their best pieces trampled into the booze...
– If you then turned to God, it would create an ensemble of spiritual songs, which would be the cheekbones took a mouth...
– Metropolitan Anthony says that if a believer artist begins to compose works about their faith, it usually turns out fake. It is not necessary to write anything, I must rely on my artistic intuition, and then the purity reached in the faith is in your works. Here is the beginning of one of my latest poems: "a pure Heart-pure / High / quick Thoughts-quick And snow far." It is written by the same man who sang, "Fly – source of infection" and "Lula kebab"? I really see that has changed in me.
– Honestly, about the flies I like.
– What you like, it's a matter of taste. Art is not at the forefront of our lives. The first plan is the relationship between people. Love – not sighs on a bench and not walks under the moon and not each other. Is the ability to bear the burden of another person. Even if it is unpleasant to you, you do him good, get over yourself. Pick up lying, don't think that this drunk was lying. Maybe his heart was bad. And even if drunk, pick up, put on a border. We have a misconception that Christianity is going to Church and prayer. As my beloved father, Dmitry Smirnov, some of us walking for forty years in the Church and read prayers, very surprised when you stand before the heavenly door, and from there you hear a voice: stand back, don't know you. Christianity is once again wash the dishes.
– In the film of Pavel Lungin "Island" where you play is not very obedient novice, I loved the Church-Slavic language in your performance. Just music.
– Yes, that is an amazing thing. In the old Slavonic language was not a single julielove or abusive words. It was not in their needs. So, there was rudeness.
– I read somewhere that de Lungin takes a praying man, but still a closeup, but it's also disgusting, as to spy in the bath...
– This is a serious issue. I now relate to cinema as pure entertainment. I threw in the attic all of Bergmann and all of Tarkovsky, who themselves do not understand and we, the audience, have shipped their lack of understanding. I look at French cinema of the 50-ies, gangster thrillers. A very honest film. The stories are fun, which is two hours from everything off. But all the bad guys you loved in the end necessarily die. Evil is punished. So these films strangely carry a positive charge. So I have great doubts about the film. This is a movie? We preach, unobtrusive, but still preach. God forbid was to make the Orthodox agitation. We just tried to give people who are from seven in the morning at work, some handrails and kostelecky to make it easier for them to live. But how to show Christianity without prayer?
– You are not afraid of the artist become a preacher?
– I share with you their heartfelt experiences. Came to see me one person said, "I want to know God, open my God." I replied: "Suppose I would have to do it, but are you ready to abandon the life that you live, and begin to live a new life? Or are you dreaming about God only as an added reward?" He was an honest man and said, "Yes, I would like for God to come into my life, without violating the order, which I set." But that won't work. If we accept it, you have to change your life.
– You said that Christianity owes nothing imposes. And the Church? In my opinion, she began to resort to intimidation. That was at the Sakharov center exhibition "Caution, religion!". The ambiguous title, provocative exhibits. This, for example: how would the icon with a cut instead of a face, and in front of the camera. The people who call themselves Orthodox, destroyed the exhibition, supposedly on their own initiative, but in reality – at the instigation of a priest, and not suffered punishment. Instead, the court fined one of the organizers of the exhibition.
The exhibit, in my opinion, sacrilegious, but a pogrom is not a Christian act. Evil for evil – is not the answer. Evil is overcome only with good. In General, what is evil? Darkness is the absence of light, evil the absence of good. He has no essence. Try to make the room the candle and close the light in the darkness. You can only extinguish a candle. I resent and bare Asses on the screen, and slot machines in grocery stores. But to counter this it is necessary my life. And not destroying it.
– The devil is also no substance?
– What are angels? Lenses in which is no darkness and who play all sides, because they refracted the light. Angels, praising God, and go back day by day closer and closer to him. And what of the demons? It was the angels who stopped and then began to thicken. And so do people. Stops on the reached does not happen. If you're stopped at a convenient stage, your Elevator went straight down. Pride is the worst sin, from which all the others are. Vanity, mnogokupolnaya than I have sinned very much. But the idle talk idle talk alike. When I speak and communicate with journalists, to using them until people realized these things, I'm competent chatty. As one elder Athos, "I'd rather talk to God about you than you about God."
Good wording, though, God knows, you're with me just about there and speak. Your character in the film is somewhat different. Partly Holy, partly whacky, part provocateur, part devil. Than and interesting. So?
– No, not a bit. What podvig of the Holy fool? The highest achievement in Christianity, when a man condemns himself to a complete disgrace, a complete disgrace, that, God forbid, someone saw it as Holiness. Here Basil was running around naked – why? The demons possessed him? No. So he said – you are the most vile, you are the most dirty. According to our faith it is good, it gives humility. God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble. What you call provocation, he does not out of malice, but for admonition, for people to come to. Here he is before the arrival of father housekeeper miss the door handle with tar because he was proud of his position, or sets fire to the mattress of the Abbot to take him out of state of being blessed, which is so brilliantly played by Viktor Ivanovich Sukhorukov.
– In the opinion of the atheist, you in its current state also produce a blissful impression...
– It seems to you. I am in a state of ceaseless wonder before the Lord, who all tolerate me, and just gives and expects from me, and waits, and slowly my heart opens and opens. Know how I would describe the origin of the pearls? This is when the oyster opens and it falls a ray of light. The maximum that I've achieved what I feel this here oyster. Will there be a pearl – God knows...
HELP Pyotr MAMONOV was born on 14 April 1951 in the suburbs. In 1979 graduated from Moscow polygraphic College. In the years 1979-1982 he studied at the editorial Department of the Moscow polygraphic Institute. He worked as a printer in the printing house "Red proletarian". In 1984-1990 – Director and vocalist of the group "Sounds of Mu". In 1991-1995 working on the project "Mamonov and Alexey". Collaborates with the Theater of Stanislavsky. Theatre: "the Bald brunette" (1991), "nobody writes to the Colonel" (1995), "is There life on Mars?" (1997, solo performance). In the movie debuted in 1986 in the short film "Hau do you do". Played in the movie "Igla" (1988), "Taxi Blues" (1990), "Anna Karamazoff" and "Foot" (1991), "Terra Incognita" and "the Time of sorrow has not yet come" (1995). published
Author: Victor Matizen
P. S. And remember, just changing your mind — together we change the world! ©
Source: www.newizv.ru/culture/2006-06-30/49317-rok-muzykant-i-akter-petr-mamonov.html
– They say that you become a different person. Why?
When I turned 45, I have completely lost interest in life. It seems to have everything – a wife I love, beautiful children, amazing parents, wonderful work, free time, full independence, everybody loves me and I love them. And suddenly ran into what I need was to live. I have a cousin – Builder. Just then he built poselochek the people respected. Lena Filatova and others. And my brother said to me: "Sing, take the parcel of land". And all my life in the city – why should I plot? He says: "at least You come, look". I came, I saw this indescribable beauty of these pine trees, recheck and say, "here I will remain".
The first two years lived alone, because the conditions were difficult. His wife and children were arrivals. And here I remember one winter evening, dark, long, when I suddenly realized that he had lost. Without false modesty I will tell that man I developed and intelligent, so drink this is not. And began to think, why live, for what to me these released 70 or whatever years of life. And my great-grandfather was Archpriest of the Cathedral of Vasily the blessed. Give, I think, I'll molitvoslove – look what they're praying. Read at first with horror and with a certain surprise. Even become a mark of prayer, with which I agree and disagree. I do not remember why – something I felt very stilted or did not come at that moment to my heart. Then it all passed and I realized that everything I need is all there. I was doing repairs at home. Was in the temple to go. The villagers ask: "what are You doing, Peter, to the Church often?", and I said, "You love to drink beer with the guys in the pub all day idle?" – "Like" – "And I've love to go." It was the beginning, but a real encounter with God happened not so long ago, year and a half ago. I couldn't get out of one sin. Could not. And in the morning on Candlemas stood up and suddenly felt that the Lord has filled my heart with love and disarmed me. And all passed. Isaac the Syrian said, "our God is love, this ocean of love". And the reason of the incarnation and the death on the cross, only love for humanity and everything else is secondary.
– Control question: do not those who believe in him God loves?
– One priest said, "God no matter what you do not believe in, the important thing is that He believes in you". God believes in man, he trusts us. We need him, because love is a feeling on both sides. He needs our love. You, as I understand, an atheist, I am a believer, but we remain normal, self-respecting, listening and trying to understand each other people. On the one hand, no one behind the ears in the Church does not drag, on the other – one does not require anyone to abandon God.
I don't know whether there is a God, and adhere to the dual principle: "Think you should basically as if there is no God, and act like he is." It seems to me that Russia has actually quite a complicated relationship with God.
– Not easy. Until 1917, we had such a rich and full life that man has forgotten God. The Lord looked at it and said, "Oh, you don't need me, get Lenin and Stalin." And when we have ceased to worship them, gave us all good. I live in the province and it does not share a common opinion that everything is bad and all steal. People interested in the job, stops drinking. Up to 10 hours of evening work on their land. The houses are all covered in the yard for two cars. I'm a mom to Moscow of our stores carry local products – narofominsky, Obninsk. Milk, sour cream, and sausage – we all cheaper. Here herds of breeding had brought from Holland. How not to rejoice? Or about the young people say all sorts of things, and meet young people and see that they don't need no porn, no ugly advertising. Last year I starred in Sergei Loban in "Dust". He is 24, he made the picture his own money, no one asked for money, taking surgery. Now, it's on the surface, the dust floats and deep – clear water. When it comes to the trolley, a drunken boor, it seems that it is impossible to go. And the remaining forty I sit quietly and go. Here we are sitting in Sochi in the festival of luxury, and people got up at 7am and went to work. I am a Deputy from these people.
In the late ' 80s you were a rocker, and I really liked "Sounds of Mu". Have your own scenic image – such a fool "Protestant". And recently I saw the movie Marina Lyubakova where you and your colleagues to renounce his past, like he was doing something wicked and terrible.
– I to the past really bad attitude. I was then bestial way of life. And the music is just a talent that God gave me. All say: Pushkin, Pushkin... And show me a mother who wanted her son lived a life as lived by her subjects. Genius, what is from God, it is well ordered. But life...
– Do you think that lifestyle and creativity can be divided? I'm not sure if Pushkin led a life of righteous, would remain in history as a great poet?
– I tell you a little story to tell. When our Lord entered Jerusalem on a donkey and shouted, "Hosanna" and threw flowers under the feet of the donkey, she was in full confidence that glorify it. My talent is the Lord for me, donkey, seated. And all of this blasted through my personal, raunchy attitude to life, through my drunkenness, excessive through my nose, through the self-awareness that I am a king, I'm a genius, I'm in charge, I know all that I understood. That's what I was a man, and therefore, their old songs I just hate. I never created images on the stage, it was a sincere cry that in my soul. Now I listen to these songs and see with horror, how I lived, what I was thinking, what he sang. Solid, vodka and so on. Of course, you can say "anti-hero", "negative fascination"... I'm just the receiver. If the receiver "Grundig", the reception cleaner. I need to clean yourself to cleaner to accept the gifts the Lord gives. When I was blinkered, all that went through me, Willy-nilly caught the marshy Tina I was in awe. And even though it was talented, it was scary. This is not the way. It was only destruction. The denial of that life. Maybe at the time and had to act. Because we were scared.
– Many people are yearning for this terrible life.
– That's understandable. In jail-its an amazing place to live. Because you fed, watered, raise, build, and drive to work, do and think about nothing. Hence, all this howling about the old time. I've always been to combine the two configured and howled against this time. It was the right howl, but polluted my personal life.
If he had nothing to your personal life, it would not have acted. And you would not have those Mamonov, who caused us a drive.
Nobody knows what would have happened to us if we hadn't drank so much vodka, would not have changed so women would not be doing so many stupid things. I may be five hundred of their best pieces trampled into the booze...
– If you then turned to God, it would create an ensemble of spiritual songs, which would be the cheekbones took a mouth...
– Metropolitan Anthony says that if a believer artist begins to compose works about their faith, it usually turns out fake. It is not necessary to write anything, I must rely on my artistic intuition, and then the purity reached in the faith is in your works. Here is the beginning of one of my latest poems: "a pure Heart-pure / High / quick Thoughts-quick And snow far." It is written by the same man who sang, "Fly – source of infection" and "Lula kebab"? I really see that has changed in me.
– Honestly, about the flies I like.
– What you like, it's a matter of taste. Art is not at the forefront of our lives. The first plan is the relationship between people. Love – not sighs on a bench and not walks under the moon and not each other. Is the ability to bear the burden of another person. Even if it is unpleasant to you, you do him good, get over yourself. Pick up lying, don't think that this drunk was lying. Maybe his heart was bad. And even if drunk, pick up, put on a border. We have a misconception that Christianity is going to Church and prayer. As my beloved father, Dmitry Smirnov, some of us walking for forty years in the Church and read prayers, very surprised when you stand before the heavenly door, and from there you hear a voice: stand back, don't know you. Christianity is once again wash the dishes.
– In the film of Pavel Lungin "Island" where you play is not very obedient novice, I loved the Church-Slavic language in your performance. Just music.
– Yes, that is an amazing thing. In the old Slavonic language was not a single julielove or abusive words. It was not in their needs. So, there was rudeness.
– I read somewhere that de Lungin takes a praying man, but still a closeup, but it's also disgusting, as to spy in the bath...
– This is a serious issue. I now relate to cinema as pure entertainment. I threw in the attic all of Bergmann and all of Tarkovsky, who themselves do not understand and we, the audience, have shipped their lack of understanding. I look at French cinema of the 50-ies, gangster thrillers. A very honest film. The stories are fun, which is two hours from everything off. But all the bad guys you loved in the end necessarily die. Evil is punished. So these films strangely carry a positive charge. So I have great doubts about the film. This is a movie? We preach, unobtrusive, but still preach. God forbid was to make the Orthodox agitation. We just tried to give people who are from seven in the morning at work, some handrails and kostelecky to make it easier for them to live. But how to show Christianity without prayer?
– You are not afraid of the artist become a preacher?
– I share with you their heartfelt experiences. Came to see me one person said, "I want to know God, open my God." I replied: "Suppose I would have to do it, but are you ready to abandon the life that you live, and begin to live a new life? Or are you dreaming about God only as an added reward?" He was an honest man and said, "Yes, I would like for God to come into my life, without violating the order, which I set." But that won't work. If we accept it, you have to change your life.
– You said that Christianity owes nothing imposes. And the Church? In my opinion, she began to resort to intimidation. That was at the Sakharov center exhibition "Caution, religion!". The ambiguous title, provocative exhibits. This, for example: how would the icon with a cut instead of a face, and in front of the camera. The people who call themselves Orthodox, destroyed the exhibition, supposedly on their own initiative, but in reality – at the instigation of a priest, and not suffered punishment. Instead, the court fined one of the organizers of the exhibition.
The exhibit, in my opinion, sacrilegious, but a pogrom is not a Christian act. Evil for evil – is not the answer. Evil is overcome only with good. In General, what is evil? Darkness is the absence of light, evil the absence of good. He has no essence. Try to make the room the candle and close the light in the darkness. You can only extinguish a candle. I resent and bare Asses on the screen, and slot machines in grocery stores. But to counter this it is necessary my life. And not destroying it.
– The devil is also no substance?
– What are angels? Lenses in which is no darkness and who play all sides, because they refracted the light. Angels, praising God, and go back day by day closer and closer to him. And what of the demons? It was the angels who stopped and then began to thicken. And so do people. Stops on the reached does not happen. If you're stopped at a convenient stage, your Elevator went straight down. Pride is the worst sin, from which all the others are. Vanity, mnogokupolnaya than I have sinned very much. But the idle talk idle talk alike. When I speak and communicate with journalists, to using them until people realized these things, I'm competent chatty. As one elder Athos, "I'd rather talk to God about you than you about God."
Good wording, though, God knows, you're with me just about there and speak. Your character in the film is somewhat different. Partly Holy, partly whacky, part provocateur, part devil. Than and interesting. So?
– No, not a bit. What podvig of the Holy fool? The highest achievement in Christianity, when a man condemns himself to a complete disgrace, a complete disgrace, that, God forbid, someone saw it as Holiness. Here Basil was running around naked – why? The demons possessed him? No. So he said – you are the most vile, you are the most dirty. According to our faith it is good, it gives humility. God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble. What you call provocation, he does not out of malice, but for admonition, for people to come to. Here he is before the arrival of father housekeeper miss the door handle with tar because he was proud of his position, or sets fire to the mattress of the Abbot to take him out of state of being blessed, which is so brilliantly played by Viktor Ivanovich Sukhorukov.
– In the opinion of the atheist, you in its current state also produce a blissful impression...
– It seems to you. I am in a state of ceaseless wonder before the Lord, who all tolerate me, and just gives and expects from me, and waits, and slowly my heart opens and opens. Know how I would describe the origin of the pearls? This is when the oyster opens and it falls a ray of light. The maximum that I've achieved what I feel this here oyster. Will there be a pearl – God knows...
HELP Pyotr MAMONOV was born on 14 April 1951 in the suburbs. In 1979 graduated from Moscow polygraphic College. In the years 1979-1982 he studied at the editorial Department of the Moscow polygraphic Institute. He worked as a printer in the printing house "Red proletarian". In 1984-1990 – Director and vocalist of the group "Sounds of Mu". In 1991-1995 working on the project "Mamonov and Alexey". Collaborates with the Theater of Stanislavsky. Theatre: "the Bald brunette" (1991), "nobody writes to the Colonel" (1995), "is There life on Mars?" (1997, solo performance). In the movie debuted in 1986 in the short film "Hau do you do". Played in the movie "Igla" (1988), "Taxi Blues" (1990), "Anna Karamazoff" and "Foot" (1991), "Terra Incognita" and "the Time of sorrow has not yet come" (1995). published
Author: Victor Matizen
P. S. And remember, just changing your mind — together we change the world! ©
Source: www.newizv.ru/culture/2006-06-30/49317-rok-muzykant-i-akter-petr-mamonov.html
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