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Volkswagen Phaeton: the first pancake is always lumpy ...?
"The first in the history of class car" - writes about VW Phaeton omniscient "Wikipedia". However, it can not apply: that it was the first "pancake" grand strategy of VW in the segment «F», literally everyone knows more or less familiar with the situation in the automotive market. So we can say that the VW Phaeton is very well known. Notorious, because to conquer the hearts of millions or even hundreds of thousands of customers he did not succeed ...
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a source at the end of
But the strategy has been very correct! Conventional and LONG modifications and front-wheel drive, diesel and petrol engines, sometimes very exotic type V10 Tdi or a top 450-hp W12. And the image of the model to create the corresponding: assembly at the incredible beauty Glaserne Manufaktur in Dresden, separate showrooms for sales and account manager, who was ready to solve all your problems 24 hours a day. But it did not help - the consumer remained cold to the "people's" car to the highest bidder.
Although, if you close your eyes to the branding «troubles», Phaeton anything especially not inferior competitors classmates. Inside, you'll meet the same set: a monumental design, high quality materials, flawless assembly. And, of course, perfect ergonomics. So even if you want to hard to find fault with something.
Phaeton makes a good impression on the passengers. Even korotkobaznoy modification offers a lot of space in length, and in addition it has also lengthened by 12 cm - there is understandably claims to reserve space in the knee can not be in principle.
But the trunk is not impressive. Its volume is 500 liters, which, in general, is now the norm for such "public sector" as the Renault Logan. Although VIP-passenger luggage that is enough, but the role of "carrier» Phaeton is not intended.
Ten-turbo? This Phaeton can only be bought for it, because nothing like this in any of the "status" of classmates there. Yes, and reliability at such modification seems to be all right - no "crime". While it is clear that cheap and easy with the Phaeton will not, because that would have to be served in an expensive service and quality "neoriginal" is not found. But as it sounds: I have ten-turbo!
Driving Quality Phaeton enthrall passengers: excellent insulation and a soft air suspension provide a very high level of comfort. But to the delight came and the driver, under the hood must be something very powerful, because the basic versions seem a bit slow and heavy. However, for the "drive" in this segment meet Audi and BMW, and VW Phaeton - it's just a great and comfortable limousine. Sometimes, though, a very, very fast, if there is a back label or V10 W12.
This car is a premium on the price of "state employee"? Yes, with the Volkswagen Phaeton is possible. But why only him? And the Mercedes S-Class and Audi A8, and BMW 7-series beginning-middle of the decade can be purchased with $ 20,000 in his pocket. However, VW highlights one important fact: since the beginning of production in 2002, the model does not "gone." Her main problem - logo VW. But first things first ...
The base engine for the Phaeton Steel Diesel 3.0 TDI (BMK / CARA / CEXA) and the petrol 3.2 VR6 (AYT / BKL / BRK). Incidentally, diesel engine capacity from 225 to 240 hp (depending on the year) reliability is different: to 150-200 thousand. km may be damaged pump, which require a minimum of maintenance, and timing chain with belt tensioners and dampers must be replaced. And $ 1,000 is not meet. Gasoline engines generally reliable, but the chain drive requires a revision every 100 thousand. Km, and "glitches" that occurred in the first machines are resolved by reprogramming the control unit. Incidentally, the engine capacity of 3, 6 liters, which appeared at the Phaeton in 2008, this problem was solved. Diesel 5.0 to 313 hp (AJS) - a thing unique and quite rare. This is one of the most powerful diesel engines installed on passenger cars, in addition it has a 10-cylinder architecture. The optimal reliability and durability is considered to be time-tested petrol V8 of 4, 2 liters (BGH / BGJ).
Questions on corrosion Phaeton should not be by definition: the doors, hood and trunk lid are made of aluminum, the front wings - thermoplastic and bearing structure of the body - made of galvanized steel. Be sure to check the Phaeton from the bottom, as it is possible that the machine correctly installed on the lift and could damage the bottom: no joke - gross weight version W12 comes to nearly three tons! Also pay attention to the operation of all electronic systems. The cause of failure may be a fracture in the harness wiring, running from the lid to the body - is a weak point of the used Phaeton. Read more about the issue can be read here.
The independent air suspension with adjustable shock absorbers also not the strongest place Phaeton. Special attention is necessary to monitor the valves of the compressor seals - on machines at the age they are often already worn. The new compressor is unnecessarily expensive, so it is usually reduced for $ 400-500. Equally you have to be careful and transmission: basic Phaeton, which established "mechanics" in the sale are not so many, and "automatic" ZF production have a low resource 150-200 thous. Km.
The opinion of the owner Volkswagen Phaeton, 4, 2 liter, automatic transmission, produced in 2004, claimed mileage 280 thousand. Km:
- I have a simple SUV, which I leave for food in the forest, etc. But the line of duty sometimes have to meet is not quite simple guests, so need a representative car. Phaeton for that is no worse than their more famous rivals. The worst thing that can happen to Phaeton, - failure of the automatic transmission, as well as the "death" air suspension. Last I passed, but a box of 120 thousand kilometers had to recover - there were small losses. On this run pleased that the interior did not begin to creak, and the materials are not Easterly, as in the rest of VW. I can say the following: if you need to travel every day and not to worry about reliability, look for instances of front-wheel drive without the "pneuma" and "mechanics". Exotic W12 and V10 will do, probably more collectors or aesthetes: the volume of the issue because by modern standards funny ...
About to catch up with rivals in sales, Volkswagen Phaeton could not dream. Prevents proletarian origin and print "working class" as an emblem VW. However, the Phaeton is technically very close to the "big three».
Reliability
Wear electroplaits. Small resource AKP. Wear air suspension.
Plus
Well equipped. Excellent ergonomics.
Our view
Image - everything? Then, like most, you just pass by VW Phaeton. It does not matter that it is equipped as any sedan executive class, which can have four-wheel drive and a powerful engine, the main problem - in the nameplate VW. But for those who are not the image of the "turn" this is good news - at the expense of prices lower than those of classmates.
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9 photos and text under the cut
a source at the end of
But the strategy has been very correct! Conventional and LONG modifications and front-wheel drive, diesel and petrol engines, sometimes very exotic type V10 Tdi or a top 450-hp W12. And the image of the model to create the corresponding: assembly at the incredible beauty Glaserne Manufaktur in Dresden, separate showrooms for sales and account manager, who was ready to solve all your problems 24 hours a day. But it did not help - the consumer remained cold to the "people's" car to the highest bidder.
Although, if you close your eyes to the branding «troubles», Phaeton anything especially not inferior competitors classmates. Inside, you'll meet the same set: a monumental design, high quality materials, flawless assembly. And, of course, perfect ergonomics. So even if you want to hard to find fault with something.
Phaeton makes a good impression on the passengers. Even korotkobaznoy modification offers a lot of space in length, and in addition it has also lengthened by 12 cm - there is understandably claims to reserve space in the knee can not be in principle.
But the trunk is not impressive. Its volume is 500 liters, which, in general, is now the norm for such "public sector" as the Renault Logan. Although VIP-passenger luggage that is enough, but the role of "carrier» Phaeton is not intended.
Ten-turbo? This Phaeton can only be bought for it, because nothing like this in any of the "status" of classmates there. Yes, and reliability at such modification seems to be all right - no "crime". While it is clear that cheap and easy with the Phaeton will not, because that would have to be served in an expensive service and quality "neoriginal" is not found. But as it sounds: I have ten-turbo!
Driving Quality Phaeton enthrall passengers: excellent insulation and a soft air suspension provide a very high level of comfort. But to the delight came and the driver, under the hood must be something very powerful, because the basic versions seem a bit slow and heavy. However, for the "drive" in this segment meet Audi and BMW, and VW Phaeton - it's just a great and comfortable limousine. Sometimes, though, a very, very fast, if there is a back label or V10 W12.
This car is a premium on the price of "state employee"? Yes, with the Volkswagen Phaeton is possible. But why only him? And the Mercedes S-Class and Audi A8, and BMW 7-series beginning-middle of the decade can be purchased with $ 20,000 in his pocket. However, VW highlights one important fact: since the beginning of production in 2002, the model does not "gone." Her main problem - logo VW. But first things first ...
The base engine for the Phaeton Steel Diesel 3.0 TDI (BMK / CARA / CEXA) and the petrol 3.2 VR6 (AYT / BKL / BRK). Incidentally, diesel engine capacity from 225 to 240 hp (depending on the year) reliability is different: to 150-200 thousand. km may be damaged pump, which require a minimum of maintenance, and timing chain with belt tensioners and dampers must be replaced. And $ 1,000 is not meet. Gasoline engines generally reliable, but the chain drive requires a revision every 100 thousand. Km, and "glitches" that occurred in the first machines are resolved by reprogramming the control unit. Incidentally, the engine capacity of 3, 6 liters, which appeared at the Phaeton in 2008, this problem was solved. Diesel 5.0 to 313 hp (AJS) - a thing unique and quite rare. This is one of the most powerful diesel engines installed on passenger cars, in addition it has a 10-cylinder architecture. The optimal reliability and durability is considered to be time-tested petrol V8 of 4, 2 liters (BGH / BGJ).
Questions on corrosion Phaeton should not be by definition: the doors, hood and trunk lid are made of aluminum, the front wings - thermoplastic and bearing structure of the body - made of galvanized steel. Be sure to check the Phaeton from the bottom, as it is possible that the machine correctly installed on the lift and could damage the bottom: no joke - gross weight version W12 comes to nearly three tons! Also pay attention to the operation of all electronic systems. The cause of failure may be a fracture in the harness wiring, running from the lid to the body - is a weak point of the used Phaeton. Read more about the issue can be read here.
The independent air suspension with adjustable shock absorbers also not the strongest place Phaeton. Special attention is necessary to monitor the valves of the compressor seals - on machines at the age they are often already worn. The new compressor is unnecessarily expensive, so it is usually reduced for $ 400-500. Equally you have to be careful and transmission: basic Phaeton, which established "mechanics" in the sale are not so many, and "automatic" ZF production have a low resource 150-200 thous. Km.
The opinion of the owner Volkswagen Phaeton, 4, 2 liter, automatic transmission, produced in 2004, claimed mileage 280 thousand. Km:
- I have a simple SUV, which I leave for food in the forest, etc. But the line of duty sometimes have to meet is not quite simple guests, so need a representative car. Phaeton for that is no worse than their more famous rivals. The worst thing that can happen to Phaeton, - failure of the automatic transmission, as well as the "death" air suspension. Last I passed, but a box of 120 thousand kilometers had to recover - there were small losses. On this run pleased that the interior did not begin to creak, and the materials are not Easterly, as in the rest of VW. I can say the following: if you need to travel every day and not to worry about reliability, look for instances of front-wheel drive without the "pneuma" and "mechanics". Exotic W12 and V10 will do, probably more collectors or aesthetes: the volume of the issue because by modern standards funny ...
About to catch up with rivals in sales, Volkswagen Phaeton could not dream. Prevents proletarian origin and print "working class" as an emblem VW. However, the Phaeton is technically very close to the "big three».
Reliability
Wear electroplaits. Small resource AKP. Wear air suspension.
Plus
Well equipped. Excellent ergonomics.
Our view
Image - everything? Then, like most, you just pass by VW Phaeton. It does not matter that it is equipped as any sedan executive class, which can have four-wheel drive and a powerful engine, the main problem - in the nameplate VW. But for those who are not the image of the "turn" this is good news - at the expense of prices lower than those of classmates.
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