The secret of friendship from the poet and prose writer Bakhyt Kenzheeva Peter Obraztsova. A win-win formula!

Aristotle back in the IV century BC, said that "the friendship - a soul living in two bodies." Similar opinion is shared by two old friends - a poet and prose writer Bakhyt Kenzheev Peter Designs. They have known for many years, and they have something to talk about a strong friendship. Two friends in his manner will tell, on what keeps their union and that the overall mean friendly relations in their lives.

Here's how to interpret the comrades with experience of the eternal questions of humanity.

Meeting Freud

Peter Designs: « We met in the construction team after the first course, 45 years ago. Together we pulled some piece of iron and somehow started talking about Freud. I do not remember who, but one of us said the word "libido", whereas few people familiar. The second is to make a stand. And it turned out that we both read the book "Pavlov and Freud," which contained, of course, harsh criticism of Freudianism, but was nonetheless rare i> ».

Bakhyt Kenzheev: « I'll tell sentimental: the book" Pavlov and Freud, "was foreign thing. A friendship is defined by the coincidence of some internal vibrations. Sometimes I meet a man and I understand: this is my friend. It is a rarity and a great holiday. Among my friends there are those with whom I met later. But it is symptomatic that they are all well and Petina friends, what was not known in advance i> ».

If it were not for you ...

B. By.: B> « If there was this friendship, I would not be ... I'm not going there to talk to the infinite love of the pages of history! I>»

U. About.: B> « Of course, I will not say such big things. We could not meet, and then it would be something else. But the meeting with Bakhyt and our long association formed 90 per cent of my current spiritual condition. Up until my present-day activities - I worked as a blunt fellow at the Institute of Chemical and probably, would have continued, if I had not started writing, thanks to Bakhyt. He dragged me into the studio, "Ray," I started with poetry and ultimately do what I needed i> ».

B. By.: B> « I have 16 books published. What I have Pete as a poet? Peter acted in my life ritual mockery of triumph, once adopted in Ancient Rome. And it is right. One should not become conceited i> ».

U. About.: B> « And you never take offense? I>»

B. By.: B> « Of course, never, you have special rights. And I love you not because of how you feel about my poetry i> ».

Men's friendships

B. By.: B> « Men's and women's friendship - no, do not divide so! We are not limited to sexual function and although different from each other, but this difference innocent. Regardless of gender, we need those who are engaged in the same things we do, and at the same level. If I love to sculpt clay mice, I'm not going to Michelangelo, and those who like to sculpt mice. It is believed that women love to talk about cooking and the men of the sport. I love - about cooking, I have friends with whom I discuss how to bake cakes. Let life be varied i> ».

U. About.: B> « I do not agree. "Selfless men's friendship," as sung in the old song, there's not looking for a change. On the contrary, we are talking about a point of contact, the exact coincidence - it is important to find a man with whom you can speak completely openly discuss all the things that you really care about. This is not possible with everyone! Still view of life in men and women are different, and because we are friends with people of the same sex with us, we have the same representation i> ».

Out of competition

U. About.: B> « We have never been in love with a girl, despite the fact that we have had many love affairs. It happened that I was getting from the girls Bakhyt "inherited", but never at the same time we do not want the same ... i> »

friends with a woman

B. By.: B> « mystical difference between men and women! There is a close friend with whom I had no carnal relations. Nevertheless, there is always an invisible balance - I can not watch even the smartest woman without a secret desire. Since God created us, it is not logical, but it is beautiful i> ».

U. About.: B> « I do not believe in friendship with a woman. I admit that it happens, but I do not believe! Common interests, talk - behind this attraction is not necessarily expressed, and even conscious, but it is always there i> ».

B. By.: B> « Yes, it's a formula Petina about friendship with a woman," either before or after, or during, but never together. " Probably so. And I do not see why this upset! The existence of two poles - men and women - makes the world charged. But sometimes you just want to discuss the problems of the world without this charge. Here, for example, we are talking with Peter about the fate of the bill. We had a long and pleasant talk - but if on-site Petit was a woman, a good and clever, anyway, I, instead of discussing the bill would look at her "upper department", and it would break for my thoughts i> ».

About the relations

B. By.: B> « Discuss the relationship - that's the idea! Do you know why the United States more than gays, than you would expect on the basis of biological proportions? Because the American girls are very emancipated and often say, "Let's discuss our relationship." It's boring! A relationship with a man does not necessarily discuss i> ».

U. About.: B> « During the" discussion "is always imagining something unpleasant. Of course, we never did. But the more interesting to think about. Let's try and see what happens i> ».

About the female jealousy

U. About.: B> « I do not remember our friendship one of the women jealous ... except my mother. She believed that Bakhyt bad influence on me. And the wife - no, but I Bakhyt her and found his classmate Lyuba i> ».

B. By.: B> « If there was jealousy, there is no" against "and" for ". Once our guest a poet, drunk, began to speak: "You Bakhyt, stuff like a man." The next day, his wife said that he refuses from the house: "I can not afford to have hurt me in the house my husband!" In my opinion, stupid jealousy. I have my own philosophy about the relationship of my friends with others. I like it when they have their own circle of friends, and I expect the same attitude. We have love, you have a creative relationship with a woman, there is a relationship with her sex, tuned to the same as what we are. And it is strange when a girl wants a man to monopolize, seize them completely. "If we did not have this friendship, I would not have been ... But I'm not going there to talk to the infinite love!» I> »

U. About.: B> « If you put a tough choice:" either me or your friends, "he breaks up with a girl, not with your friends i>».

B. By.: B> « When a girl is jealous of Pete, it seems that my life is devoted to her not in full, some part of me do not get it. But the choice is meaningless, to be both - or harmony is impossible, and yet we strive for harmony. Relationships with the opposite sex - the biggest and most romantic part of life. But we have many other besides genitals. We Homo sapiens, and our interests extend to the whole world. Men also do not replace the girls rest of the world. And many have become unhappy because they could not understand that their chosen one is not ready to devote his entire life cooing, she has other requests i> ».

And still - love?

B. By.: B> « The love is commitment, unfortunately. In friendship there. None, except one - if one got sick, you have to see him i> ».

U. About.: B> « Love and friendship differ in the number of forgiveness. When you love, you forgive a lot. That's when Bakhit, for example, comes, I just do what I leave. I can not stand untidiness - but it throws glasses and shakes off the ashes anywhere, and I accepted! In this sense, we have more love. I do not think he - the only person with whom I could match worldview. But there is one factor - it is difficult to determine, but it is - because we choose someone else. And in the love between man and woman, he too is - because I want to enjoy almost every and love there is not always i> ».


B. By.: B> « We met in 1968, and in the 82 th I left the country i>».

U. About.: B> « It was very hard on the wires at the airport, I just cried. It was a disaster, a tragedy. Because it was - forever. In those days there was no hope of return i> ».

B. By.: B> « Do you think what I was doing when the plane took off? I cried all the way. I saved a Soviet passport, hoping that I would come back in four months. But I came four years later i> ».

U. About.: B> « We were talking on the phone, but it seemed that the distance between us irresistibly. When four years later the phone rang and I heard a voice Bakhyt, I lost consciousness. Maybe just for a second, but it was a heavy blow. He arrived unannounced and rang the bell already from Moscow i> ».

Let's not friendship day, but keep in mind is the best companions on a daily basis. So advise Kenzheev and samples, as everyone knows, and speaketh the truth. Remember you and about your friends, just to share philosophical reflections of good friends.

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