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For a machine to Germany: the Germans are not the same ...
After failing to find a car within Belarus, we have decided that the best option in this situation would holograph will drive a car from abroad. This conclusion was supported by several factors, one of which - the presence of friends in East Germany (and it is a significant help in the search for and save on your stay in the country) and relatively inexpensive shopping, which is always crowned our trip and allowed a year or two to close the issue of clothes.
If Belarus, we considered several options for cars, something about Germany all have been clearly defined: if you go, it is only for "straight-through» Opel Astra GTC. Why this car - a separate issue. If you like, it was a dream barefoot childhood. Those who choose cars heart, understand what was happening, despite the sneers about the impracticality of others and all that.
53 photos and text
About half a year we combed mobile.de, studying prices and offers. The main priority of choice is "one hand", mileage up to 50 thousand, decent equipment, accident-free past and that the machine is in a radius of 150 km from Freiberg - the city in which we had to settle. Taking into account the customs duty, the search was narrowed to the range of models of 2009-2010 onwards 1, 4-liter neturbirovannym motor. Proposals that meet our requirements, the web was 10 pieces, as they say, would be money. To gain some confidence in the success of any event, we have decided that just in case you need to have in your pocket amount for the most expensive option. But at the same time her husband in front of me was clearly tasked to "strangle" the sellers to the last and possibly reclaim the VAT, as a small part of the available amount (the same one, to be sure) still had borrowed from relatives. For everything, considering the overhead, we had 11,500 euros. At the same time the most expensive "dzhitisishki" meets our requirements, cost about 8,500 euros.
The cheapest way to get to East Germany once again proved to be a bus Ecolines. A ticket to Dresden cost a little more than 92 euros (12.600 orientation course, here and below, all calculations will result in euros). Another 7 euros worth train to Freiberg, and here we are on the spot.
The analysis showed that the movement of ad Astra GTC has been minimal, so before leaving 2-3 outlined options that should see first. At the weekend, when we were leaving to Germany, there was one machine generation J - five-door hatchback 2010, and only a thousand euros more expensive than the sought generation GTC H. This and bribery.
On the way to her was listed another option, but the price of 2009 to 6990. cheerleaders name Autohaus very consonant with the Kazakh name, but in any case we have nothing to lose, it's on the way. The third option was a white Astra GTC, located 50 km away from us, but on the other side of the first two.
Monday morning began with unrest. Upon arrival, we learned that on Wednesday in Germany, some religious festival, respectively, it will not work, and wanted to go back on Thursday not to get on the stage of the day at the border. The task was complicated, as are good at finding the car we had only 2 days. In addition, with our last visit we changed the rules of purchase of transit "rooms." If before they could buy in the store, and it could make German friends, now they are sold exclusively under the passport of who will buy the car. On Monday, the organization that gave out "room" is only open until noon. It started an easy nervousness, as you have to understand that in two days we can not make it, and perhaps you like a machine would have to go double. The advantage in this situation was the fact that at our disposal was a car of friends, which adds mobility. We decided that one day it was quite possible to turn around and see all three cars planned.
Check Up on the first Astra (which J), dashed our plans. As we woke up, it had already bought. Go for 150 km to see the GTC of the "Kazakh" Autohaus, which was on the way, the meaning was not, moreover, the first registration was listed in April 2009, which means that it is not the fact that she was a "pass" .
Going to Germany, we have absolutely soberly aware that buying a car from a German - a rare stroke of luck. The lion's share of the market for used cars, especially in the eastern part of the country, holding Russian and Turkish. Therefore, wait for the vaunted German accuracy and meticulousness is not necessary. All the same, that we have: the hype and "divorce" at every turn. Rumor has it that the Germans are not the same. If a few years ago twisting path for them was "ah-ah-ah" (by the way, such cases in Germany are considered to crime), but now it is almost a matter of course. Therefore, the true Belarusians, we moved on to deal with the understanding that no one can be trusted.
Cons vehicle search abroad lies in the fact that the car has to actually choose the pictures. This is not a Minsk, where he went, looked 2-3 cars at a time, and hardly spent. Every extra kilometer in Germany - it's money, but with each passing day the car in a foreign country is becoming more expensive by at least 50 euros. Especially if you are looking for is not a massive car, as it was in our case. That's because in order not to waste time on questionable variations, we immediately shallows all the offers worth up to 7,000 euros, no matter how sweet they seem. And the most viable option was the closest white Astra from Chemnitz, who was third on our list. To our surprise, talking about it is something we have refused to call, say, Come and see. That is, of course, the attitude ...
In the navigator, we quickly found the correct address. Pleased that Autohaus traded only to what.
Among the rows of cars lined up, we quickly found the right one.
A cursory external examination revealed that the car repaint the right wing: First, do not fall into color, and secondly under the arch was seen obvious influx of paint, and the gaps were faint traces of repair.
09
The rest of the car was smooth and very pleasant. By focusing on the appearance, at the last moment, we looked at the price tag, embedded under the glass. It flaunted 8990 euros instead of 7990, announced on the Internet.
In the office, where we went for the keys to the car, there were two tables and a huge bottle of Jim Beam.
It turned out that the German Autohaus holds here for 24 years. What surprised us, Belarusians, so it is exposed for all to see in the workplace arsenal of expensive alcohol. We have for a long time already ... you know.
We asked about the discrepancies in price and were told that the price of the real Internet. This is an occasion to think: that is, if we are not studying the Internet, come at random, I had to pay a thousand more ?!
After receiving the keys, we looked inside the car and pointed to the painted wing. In response, the German raised his hood and showed us the factory paint on fixtures, fending off the fact that the wing is not removed, the car has a full history, in an accident, he did not get, in fact, it has a guarantee. With the help of our interpreter, we tried to explain to the Germans that no one talks about the dangerous past. You may have just a scratch, it painted over without removing the wing, but the color did not get, and this is the occasion to talk about the discount. Spreading his arms, the Germans sent us to the owner.
Before talking with the main boss we checked everything usually check when choosing a used car, even made a short test drive around the city. I drove the car perfectly, and with each new turn, we understand that it is necessary to take. Briefing was: a white car - again, the three-door - two repaint wing - three VAT returns - four. Make a disgruntled person and give to understand that it will take away only if you concede in the price.
But our plan fails in his eyes, to prove that the wing was painted, we had nothing - just our word against the Germans, but it is the seller. At the moment, we regret very much that did not bring editorial thickness LPC - as it is now, he will come in handy! But here as a gift of fate from the side of the room to meet us swam Yuri, whom we met in the course of inspection machines. Russian guy who moonlights as the Germans. And in the hands of the Jura was the same device! I still do not understand why all this he needed, but we were quick to use the device that confirmed we were right a yellow light bulb.
And then the Germans changed the mood. Play on the impossibility of the VAT refund, we did not work - he immediately opened the site and showed us that most of the proposals on the Internet without a tax refund. Few poprepiravshis, he asked, what is our price. Knowing what is likely to be "half", he said to 7300. Given the "hitch" with the wing, our desire was to bring down the price up to 7500. The German raised an eyebrow, pulled himself from the tray to the paper and mysteriously written on it 7650. We cleverly concealed joy, and asked whether it is possible to inspect even the undercarriage.
On the elevator, we were convinced that serious damage to the part of the wing was not. The car is fully consistent with the declared state tinting was factory, which is important - there was a new winter tires Hankook (no one knows, of course, evrozima, but still better than the "summer" in November), which I am personally very happy. Options car is not a top, but decent - everything but the cruise, 8 airbags, leather on the steering wheel, rain sensor, and even a salon mirror with automatic dimming. Parking, however, was not, but this problem can be solved cheaply and on arrival (visibility in the car sacrificed design).
In any case, we asked again, "maybe ...?", To which the Germans made it clear that he wrote the last price. We shook hands, and left the pledge taken advantage of their offer to issue transit "numbers" and insurance for an additional 100 euros, and then with quiet soul went for shopping at the local mall. So held the most rapid buying a car in my life.
The final settlement was appointed to the 14 hours of the next day - by this time should come "in transit." By the way, what about them trying to scare us, they say, you do not have to buy the yellow and red "numbers" (which, for a moment, much more expensive) as yellow can be a problem with the departure. But one "call a friend" convinced us that sense to overpay for other "numbers" no, especially because two days later we leave the limits of the European Union.
18
With the "numbers" Germans were delayed, and the time we spent waiting to talk with Yuri. It turned out that he had moved to Germany from Novosibirsk back in the 90s. At home he does not pull, the more so because there had no one left - the whole family is here, too. He told me, what do Russian, prompted us to address "showdown" where you can buy cheap jack balonnik and "reserve", which in our Astra not provided (instead of "reserve" have the compressor). Since we had to overcome a long way under its own power, the presence of at least "dokatki" did not seem odd.
Belarusians as customers Jura seen for a long time. But periodically visited by Russians and, unlike us, does not look subcompact. We found out that a month just this Autohaus sells about 50 cars, as well as the fact that our cars were bought on commission from an authorized dealer. Around German Autohaus it was about five "Turkish", there was a range of "no-go", but the cars are cheap. As long as we make the deposit, no movement in these areas was not observed. But at "our" Germans when we bought the Citroen C5, but at the moment, when we picked up the car, buyers expect even 2 cars - Mercedes SL and Mitsubishi Lancer.
When the courier arrived with the "numbers", we signed the final contract.
Jura thoroughly cleaned drove a car filled a full tank of washer fluid, check the oil shook tape and a damaged pipe. It was not only the fastest but also the most expensive buying a car in my life.
21
Then we went to look for the very same "dispute", which advised the Jura. Naturally, the "demolition" was Russian.
If you think that after the accident cars go to heaven, you are wrong. After the accident, they fall to the Russian, who carefully dismantle them and sell the surviving parts.
We easily found a contact person and asked the allowances. 20 minutes later from somewhere from the depths of us carried balonnik, jack and even a first aid kit unopened German expired - all for 5 euros. Search for "chute" took too much time, but it was getting dark, so we decided it was easier to deal with this problem in Minsk.
On the road in Freiberg, we stopped to refuel. On a full tank of 95-octane gasoline (total includes 50 liters) on-board computer responded immediately, showing us a power reserve of more than 850 km. I was thrilled!
Porelaksirovat Wednesday, loaded on the same "do not spoil," and full of checks on the tax-free return of the glove compartment, we went back. We had to overcome the 1300 km to get the stone in the windshield, stand 7:00 in the Belarusian customs, Poles and BelToll to pay tolls on the highway Brest and, of course, "knock out" how much ultimately cost the car.
27
In Germany, the lack of interesting cars, besides a lot of that by our standards is considered a "no-go" is significantly cheaper than we imagine. Maybe this Ford - not the best example, but just caught my eye.
New cars are sold not only to authorized dealers ...
At first we did not understand that in a pool near our Autohaus like everywhere all clean, neat, and then on to you. And then, looking more closely, we realized that this is a special testing ground local dealer Land Rover.
This is everything. Thank you for your attention.
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If Belarus, we considered several options for cars, something about Germany all have been clearly defined: if you go, it is only for "straight-through» Opel Astra GTC. Why this car - a separate issue. If you like, it was a dream barefoot childhood. Those who choose cars heart, understand what was happening, despite the sneers about the impracticality of others and all that.
53 photos and text
About half a year we combed mobile.de, studying prices and offers. The main priority of choice is "one hand", mileage up to 50 thousand, decent equipment, accident-free past and that the machine is in a radius of 150 km from Freiberg - the city in which we had to settle. Taking into account the customs duty, the search was narrowed to the range of models of 2009-2010 onwards 1, 4-liter neturbirovannym motor. Proposals that meet our requirements, the web was 10 pieces, as they say, would be money. To gain some confidence in the success of any event, we have decided that just in case you need to have in your pocket amount for the most expensive option. But at the same time her husband in front of me was clearly tasked to "strangle" the sellers to the last and possibly reclaim the VAT, as a small part of the available amount (the same one, to be sure) still had borrowed from relatives. For everything, considering the overhead, we had 11,500 euros. At the same time the most expensive "dzhitisishki" meets our requirements, cost about 8,500 euros.
The cheapest way to get to East Germany once again proved to be a bus Ecolines. A ticket to Dresden cost a little more than 92 euros (12.600 orientation course, here and below, all calculations will result in euros). Another 7 euros worth train to Freiberg, and here we are on the spot.
The analysis showed that the movement of ad Astra GTC has been minimal, so before leaving 2-3 outlined options that should see first. At the weekend, when we were leaving to Germany, there was one machine generation J - five-door hatchback 2010, and only a thousand euros more expensive than the sought generation GTC H. This and bribery.
On the way to her was listed another option, but the price of 2009 to 6990. cheerleaders name Autohaus very consonant with the Kazakh name, but in any case we have nothing to lose, it's on the way. The third option was a white Astra GTC, located 50 km away from us, but on the other side of the first two.
Monday morning began with unrest. Upon arrival, we learned that on Wednesday in Germany, some religious festival, respectively, it will not work, and wanted to go back on Thursday not to get on the stage of the day at the border. The task was complicated, as are good at finding the car we had only 2 days. In addition, with our last visit we changed the rules of purchase of transit "rooms." If before they could buy in the store, and it could make German friends, now they are sold exclusively under the passport of who will buy the car. On Monday, the organization that gave out "room" is only open until noon. It started an easy nervousness, as you have to understand that in two days we can not make it, and perhaps you like a machine would have to go double. The advantage in this situation was the fact that at our disposal was a car of friends, which adds mobility. We decided that one day it was quite possible to turn around and see all three cars planned.
Check Up on the first Astra (which J), dashed our plans. As we woke up, it had already bought. Go for 150 km to see the GTC of the "Kazakh" Autohaus, which was on the way, the meaning was not, moreover, the first registration was listed in April 2009, which means that it is not the fact that she was a "pass" .
Going to Germany, we have absolutely soberly aware that buying a car from a German - a rare stroke of luck. The lion's share of the market for used cars, especially in the eastern part of the country, holding Russian and Turkish. Therefore, wait for the vaunted German accuracy and meticulousness is not necessary. All the same, that we have: the hype and "divorce" at every turn. Rumor has it that the Germans are not the same. If a few years ago twisting path for them was "ah-ah-ah" (by the way, such cases in Germany are considered to crime), but now it is almost a matter of course. Therefore, the true Belarusians, we moved on to deal with the understanding that no one can be trusted.
Cons vehicle search abroad lies in the fact that the car has to actually choose the pictures. This is not a Minsk, where he went, looked 2-3 cars at a time, and hardly spent. Every extra kilometer in Germany - it's money, but with each passing day the car in a foreign country is becoming more expensive by at least 50 euros. Especially if you are looking for is not a massive car, as it was in our case. That's because in order not to waste time on questionable variations, we immediately shallows all the offers worth up to 7,000 euros, no matter how sweet they seem. And the most viable option was the closest white Astra from Chemnitz, who was third on our list. To our surprise, talking about it is something we have refused to call, say, Come and see. That is, of course, the attitude ...
In the navigator, we quickly found the correct address. Pleased that Autohaus traded only to what.
Among the rows of cars lined up, we quickly found the right one.
A cursory external examination revealed that the car repaint the right wing: First, do not fall into color, and secondly under the arch was seen obvious influx of paint, and the gaps were faint traces of repair.
09
The rest of the car was smooth and very pleasant. By focusing on the appearance, at the last moment, we looked at the price tag, embedded under the glass. It flaunted 8990 euros instead of 7990, announced on the Internet.
In the office, where we went for the keys to the car, there were two tables and a huge bottle of Jim Beam.
It turned out that the German Autohaus holds here for 24 years. What surprised us, Belarusians, so it is exposed for all to see in the workplace arsenal of expensive alcohol. We have for a long time already ... you know.
We asked about the discrepancies in price and were told that the price of the real Internet. This is an occasion to think: that is, if we are not studying the Internet, come at random, I had to pay a thousand more ?!
After receiving the keys, we looked inside the car and pointed to the painted wing. In response, the German raised his hood and showed us the factory paint on fixtures, fending off the fact that the wing is not removed, the car has a full history, in an accident, he did not get, in fact, it has a guarantee. With the help of our interpreter, we tried to explain to the Germans that no one talks about the dangerous past. You may have just a scratch, it painted over without removing the wing, but the color did not get, and this is the occasion to talk about the discount. Spreading his arms, the Germans sent us to the owner.
Before talking with the main boss we checked everything usually check when choosing a used car, even made a short test drive around the city. I drove the car perfectly, and with each new turn, we understand that it is necessary to take. Briefing was: a white car - again, the three-door - two repaint wing - three VAT returns - four. Make a disgruntled person and give to understand that it will take away only if you concede in the price.
But our plan fails in his eyes, to prove that the wing was painted, we had nothing - just our word against the Germans, but it is the seller. At the moment, we regret very much that did not bring editorial thickness LPC - as it is now, he will come in handy! But here as a gift of fate from the side of the room to meet us swam Yuri, whom we met in the course of inspection machines. Russian guy who moonlights as the Germans. And in the hands of the Jura was the same device! I still do not understand why all this he needed, but we were quick to use the device that confirmed we were right a yellow light bulb.
And then the Germans changed the mood. Play on the impossibility of the VAT refund, we did not work - he immediately opened the site and showed us that most of the proposals on the Internet without a tax refund. Few poprepiravshis, he asked, what is our price. Knowing what is likely to be "half", he said to 7300. Given the "hitch" with the wing, our desire was to bring down the price up to 7500. The German raised an eyebrow, pulled himself from the tray to the paper and mysteriously written on it 7650. We cleverly concealed joy, and asked whether it is possible to inspect even the undercarriage.
On the elevator, we were convinced that serious damage to the part of the wing was not. The car is fully consistent with the declared state tinting was factory, which is important - there was a new winter tires Hankook (no one knows, of course, evrozima, but still better than the "summer" in November), which I am personally very happy. Options car is not a top, but decent - everything but the cruise, 8 airbags, leather on the steering wheel, rain sensor, and even a salon mirror with automatic dimming. Parking, however, was not, but this problem can be solved cheaply and on arrival (visibility in the car sacrificed design).
In any case, we asked again, "maybe ...?", To which the Germans made it clear that he wrote the last price. We shook hands, and left the pledge taken advantage of their offer to issue transit "numbers" and insurance for an additional 100 euros, and then with quiet soul went for shopping at the local mall. So held the most rapid buying a car in my life.
The final settlement was appointed to the 14 hours of the next day - by this time should come "in transit." By the way, what about them trying to scare us, they say, you do not have to buy the yellow and red "numbers" (which, for a moment, much more expensive) as yellow can be a problem with the departure. But one "call a friend" convinced us that sense to overpay for other "numbers" no, especially because two days later we leave the limits of the European Union.
18
With the "numbers" Germans were delayed, and the time we spent waiting to talk with Yuri. It turned out that he had moved to Germany from Novosibirsk back in the 90s. At home he does not pull, the more so because there had no one left - the whole family is here, too. He told me, what do Russian, prompted us to address "showdown" where you can buy cheap jack balonnik and "reserve", which in our Astra not provided (instead of "reserve" have the compressor). Since we had to overcome a long way under its own power, the presence of at least "dokatki" did not seem odd.
Belarusians as customers Jura seen for a long time. But periodically visited by Russians and, unlike us, does not look subcompact. We found out that a month just this Autohaus sells about 50 cars, as well as the fact that our cars were bought on commission from an authorized dealer. Around German Autohaus it was about five "Turkish", there was a range of "no-go", but the cars are cheap. As long as we make the deposit, no movement in these areas was not observed. But at "our" Germans when we bought the Citroen C5, but at the moment, when we picked up the car, buyers expect even 2 cars - Mercedes SL and Mitsubishi Lancer.
When the courier arrived with the "numbers", we signed the final contract.
Jura thoroughly cleaned drove a car filled a full tank of washer fluid, check the oil shook tape and a damaged pipe. It was not only the fastest but also the most expensive buying a car in my life.
21
Then we went to look for the very same "dispute", which advised the Jura. Naturally, the "demolition" was Russian.
If you think that after the accident cars go to heaven, you are wrong. After the accident, they fall to the Russian, who carefully dismantle them and sell the surviving parts.
We easily found a contact person and asked the allowances. 20 minutes later from somewhere from the depths of us carried balonnik, jack and even a first aid kit unopened German expired - all for 5 euros. Search for "chute" took too much time, but it was getting dark, so we decided it was easier to deal with this problem in Minsk.
On the road in Freiberg, we stopped to refuel. On a full tank of 95-octane gasoline (total includes 50 liters) on-board computer responded immediately, showing us a power reserve of more than 850 km. I was thrilled!
Porelaksirovat Wednesday, loaded on the same "do not spoil," and full of checks on the tax-free return of the glove compartment, we went back. We had to overcome the 1300 km to get the stone in the windshield, stand 7:00 in the Belarusian customs, Poles and BelToll to pay tolls on the highway Brest and, of course, "knock out" how much ultimately cost the car.
27
In Germany, the lack of interesting cars, besides a lot of that by our standards is considered a "no-go" is significantly cheaper than we imagine. Maybe this Ford - not the best example, but just caught my eye.
New cars are sold not only to authorized dealers ...
At first we did not understand that in a pool near our Autohaus like everywhere all clean, neat, and then on to you. And then, looking more closely, we realized that this is a special testing ground local dealer Land Rover.
This is everything. Thank you for your attention.
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