A monk asked Ma Tsu:
- What is Buddha?
- The Buddha is the mind, - said Ma Tzu.
- What is the Way? - Then asked the monk.
- Way has no mind, - said Ma Tzu.
- Buddha Path - is that different things? - Asked the monk.
- Buddha - it is like stretching hands Way - it is like clenching fists, - said Ma Tzu.