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Klitschko and Ward, taken out of context
Video, which filmed, as the leaders of the party "BLOW" dogovoraivayutsya with "Berkut", caused a lot of controversy on the Internet. DW find out what Wladimir Klitschko spoke to the security forces.
December 10 at the site of the newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ) video footage appeared correspondent edition Konrad Schuller (Konrad Schuller) on the confrontation between supporters of European integration and law enforcement agencies in the city center. In one scene, you can see how the leaders of the Ukrainian opposition in talks with officers "Berkut».
In the frame appear Wladimir Klitschko, the brother of the leader of the party "BLOW" Vitali Klitschko, as well as the last Deputy Arthur Ward. "We're getting there chain knock, and you will understand (barrikady.- Ed.), The guys must be so" - says Ward. The representative of the security forces responsible, "I explain to you guys, if no one will throw the beat ..." At this Klitschko standing next reacts with the words: "No one will not throw." "Then no questions is generally" - promises officer "Berkut". Further in the report shows the collision between the opposition and members of special police.
Russian media have submitted video as evidence that the activists tried to stage a protest movement clash with security forces. The presence of such a solid source as "German journalists," was perceived as an argument in support of this hypothesis. "Journalists authoritative German edition of Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung filmed attempt to representatives of the Ukrainian opposition to negotiate with the Ukrainian police special forces" Berkut "a false fight," - said the agency ITAR-TASS.
Taken out of context
At the same time more sensible viewers noted that from this brief sketch is not clear in what circumstances and on what exactly the opposition agree with the demonstrators. In other words, the video was taken out of context.
On Friday, the site Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung appeared full version filmed episode (http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/europa/deutungsstreit-um-faz-net-video-nicht-werfen-nicht-schlagen-keine-steine-nichts-12709213.html). From a five-minute story Conrad Schuller becomes clear that negotiations were not about staging a fight, and that during the very real side impact will behave in a civilized manner. The opposition did not throw stones at the employees "Berkut", and those in turn are not used against the demonstrators with clubs and tear gas.
The need for such an agreement due to the fact that the security forces had considerable numerical superiority: "We will disassemble them (employees" Berkut ".- Ed.) More", - says Klitschko his supporters. And the opposition warns against provocations: "If someone throws something will have to deal with me personally. Who throws, it should immediately wringing, this is a provocation! ».
"It was on the night of 9 to 10 December, at the beginning of the third night, - said in an interview with DW FAZ journalist Konrad Schuller. - Video shot on the corner of the street and Shelkovichnoe Bogomoletz academician, a mile from the Maidan. " According to Schuller December 10, the entire government district of Kiev was barricaded the perimeter of the opposition. The task of security forces was to release the roadway and drive the demonstrators back to the Independence Square.
Similar clashes took place in other places, and everywhere the number of police several times greater than the number of protesters. "According to my rough estimates on Shelkovichnoe opposition were about 50 people, and employees" Berkut "- more than 200," - said Konrad Schuller in an interview with DW.
In this case, the opposition could not vacate the area without any resistance - this would be contrary to their moral principles, explains Schuller. In addition, among them were activists of the radical movement "Freedom", which would not want to leave without a fight: "The situation was very tense and threatened to escalate into a hard crackdown on demonstrators, just as it was on December 1».
Fight by the rules
Wladimir Klitschko and Arthur Ward, according to Schuller, did everything to avoid such developments. They approached the soldiers "Berkut" and asked the chief cause: "Who's in charge, the commander there?" In an interview with approaching commander Arthur Ward warned him to leave without resistance protesters do not intend to, "We knock, so it is necessary».
And asked law enforcement officials to "do everything beautifully" - not in the sense of stage effect, but in the sense of humane treatment of the opposition, that one hundred percent probability had to lose the fight. For its part, Klitschko guaranteed "Berkut" lack provocations.
Everything went at the agreed scenario, says Konrad Schuller. No one was hurt in the end. "I think that Klitschko as the leader did what had to be done. If as a result of an unwinnable for the opposition clashes bloodshed, the responsibility would be on it. " By 11 December, all the barricades around the perimeter of the government quarter were dismantled, and the demonstrators returned to Independence Square, reminds correspondent FAZ. He notes that the relationship between the Ukrainian opposition and police in Kiev, in general, not the worst.
"There has not lost the sense of the slogan" The police and the people. " Demonstrators understand that law enforcement agencies are the same people as they are, and that disperse the rallies - it's their job. They do not hate, "- says Schuller. Therefore, during the confrontation in Kiev, often being spontaneous negotiations whose purpose - to avoid violence.
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December 10 at the site of the newspaper Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung (FAZ) video footage appeared correspondent edition Konrad Schuller (Konrad Schuller) on the confrontation between supporters of European integration and law enforcement agencies in the city center. In one scene, you can see how the leaders of the Ukrainian opposition in talks with officers "Berkut».
In the frame appear Wladimir Klitschko, the brother of the leader of the party "BLOW" Vitali Klitschko, as well as the last Deputy Arthur Ward. "We're getting there chain knock, and you will understand (barrikady.- Ed.), The guys must be so" - says Ward. The representative of the security forces responsible, "I explain to you guys, if no one will throw the beat ..." At this Klitschko standing next reacts with the words: "No one will not throw." "Then no questions is generally" - promises officer "Berkut". Further in the report shows the collision between the opposition and members of special police.
Russian media have submitted video as evidence that the activists tried to stage a protest movement clash with security forces. The presence of such a solid source as "German journalists," was perceived as an argument in support of this hypothesis. "Journalists authoritative German edition of Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung filmed attempt to representatives of the Ukrainian opposition to negotiate with the Ukrainian police special forces" Berkut "a false fight," - said the agency ITAR-TASS.
Taken out of context
At the same time more sensible viewers noted that from this brief sketch is not clear in what circumstances and on what exactly the opposition agree with the demonstrators. In other words, the video was taken out of context.
On Friday, the site Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung appeared full version filmed episode (http://www.faz.net/aktuell/politik/ausland/europa/deutungsstreit-um-faz-net-video-nicht-werfen-nicht-schlagen-keine-steine-nichts-12709213.html). From a five-minute story Conrad Schuller becomes clear that negotiations were not about staging a fight, and that during the very real side impact will behave in a civilized manner. The opposition did not throw stones at the employees "Berkut", and those in turn are not used against the demonstrators with clubs and tear gas.
The need for such an agreement due to the fact that the security forces had considerable numerical superiority: "We will disassemble them (employees" Berkut ".- Ed.) More", - says Klitschko his supporters. And the opposition warns against provocations: "If someone throws something will have to deal with me personally. Who throws, it should immediately wringing, this is a provocation! ».
"It was on the night of 9 to 10 December, at the beginning of the third night, - said in an interview with DW FAZ journalist Konrad Schuller. - Video shot on the corner of the street and Shelkovichnoe Bogomoletz academician, a mile from the Maidan. " According to Schuller December 10, the entire government district of Kiev was barricaded the perimeter of the opposition. The task of security forces was to release the roadway and drive the demonstrators back to the Independence Square.
Similar clashes took place in other places, and everywhere the number of police several times greater than the number of protesters. "According to my rough estimates on Shelkovichnoe opposition were about 50 people, and employees" Berkut "- more than 200," - said Konrad Schuller in an interview with DW.
In this case, the opposition could not vacate the area without any resistance - this would be contrary to their moral principles, explains Schuller. In addition, among them were activists of the radical movement "Freedom", which would not want to leave without a fight: "The situation was very tense and threatened to escalate into a hard crackdown on demonstrators, just as it was on December 1».
Fight by the rules
Wladimir Klitschko and Arthur Ward, according to Schuller, did everything to avoid such developments. They approached the soldiers "Berkut" and asked the chief cause: "Who's in charge, the commander there?" In an interview with approaching commander Arthur Ward warned him to leave without resistance protesters do not intend to, "We knock, so it is necessary».
And asked law enforcement officials to "do everything beautifully" - not in the sense of stage effect, but in the sense of humane treatment of the opposition, that one hundred percent probability had to lose the fight. For its part, Klitschko guaranteed "Berkut" lack provocations.
Everything went at the agreed scenario, says Konrad Schuller. No one was hurt in the end. "I think that Klitschko as the leader did what had to be done. If as a result of an unwinnable for the opposition clashes bloodshed, the responsibility would be on it. " By 11 December, all the barricades around the perimeter of the government quarter were dismantled, and the demonstrators returned to Independence Square, reminds correspondent FAZ. He notes that the relationship between the Ukrainian opposition and police in Kiev, in general, not the worst.
"There has not lost the sense of the slogan" The police and the people. " Demonstrators understand that law enforcement agencies are the same people as they are, and that disperse the rallies - it's their job. They do not hate, "- says Schuller. Therefore, during the confrontation in Kiev, often being spontaneous negotiations whose purpose - to avoid violence.
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