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Armor is strong!
Soldiers of special forces Ministry of Defence, internal troops of SWAT and Special Forces Center (SPC), the Interior Ministry agreed to tell us why in the Russian Spetsnaz popular American camouflage colors MULTICAM, how effective domestic body armor and night-vision goggles as selected military equipment and weapons.
In recent years, the protagonists of TV reports and photos from the North Caucasus have become soldiers of various special forces, has the task of combating the terrorist underground. In video and photo chronicle striking that the field uniforms, body armor, communications and so on. D. Special forces have different, so to speak, with the world on a string. In today's segment of the private production of tactical equipment and means of protection it is very dynamic. Even well-funded western division, the American "Delta", the British SAS and others buy for their money vending products. After all, clothing, gear, weapons and even more to the success of any operation. As things stand at the Russian security services, which have a problem that I would like to change? Armor is strong
"We use body armor 6B23. There are brand new 6B43, but very few of them, "- said the officer based in Moscow SPC Defense Ministry. According to him, most of the troops for their money buying imported products, mainly blankets, which are then sutured to be able to put domestic armor panels.
Source
Here.
And another.
Posted in [mergetime] 1403925730 [/ mergetime]
Colleagues from the Internal Troops are on the supply body armor design of the early 90-ies "Korund" ', but now began to supply modern "Baqarah." Just as in the Defense in BB buy foreign body armor, in particular US. However, popular domestic and "Defender" and "Redoubts».
SPC staff MIA protect various products of the company "Fort technology" and "Armakom." All interlocutors publication agreed that none of the types of body armor does not meet their requirements. We need not ordinary body armor and modular armor representing Vest ("discharge") with armor plates and the ability to install the necessary pouches under-performed tasks. Now these systems have become a mandatory attribute not only the special forces, and combined arms in many armies of the world.
Posted in [mergetime] 1403925773 [/ mergetime]
"We would like to have a full-time lightweight body armor plate carrier scheme such as the one that makes the company LBT and PIG-tactical. But since they do not, many people buy on their own and put armor panels "- says officer Defense Ministry. So do the Interior Troops. "The Americans have a good mounting system set c pouches called MOLLE. All quality, pouches hold securely. Something similar is done on "Bagara", however, quality is worse and pouches enough for only two or three sessions. But such body armor we have only 30-40 percent, "- complains officer of BB.
Posted in [mergetime] 1403925810 [/ mergetime]
But fellow SWAT MIA believes that domestic protective materials and better body armor protection classes higher than that of foreign products. But he recognizes the need for modular armor. All of the source publication do not meet established safety helmets. "As a chamber pot on his head pulled. We have to make a special case of landing, otherwise it may catch on the opening edge of the helmet straps. In our no mounts for night vision, lights and things like that, "- said the Defense Ministry officer SPC. Established ZS-1 do not like internal troops and "Altyn", "The Mask" and "Lynx-T" - employees of the Ministry of Interior SWAT.
Once.
Two.
Three.
Posted in [mergetime] 1403925940 [/ mergetime]
By all accounts, the best option a protective helmet standing on the supply of special forces around the world, designed by American firm OpScore.
"Very comfortable, well sit on the head, combined with glasses, headphones, oxygen mask, are streamlined," - said the representative of the Ministry of Defense. It is supported by colleagues from the Interior Ministry and Interior Ministry troops. "ZS-1 - this last century. We buy for their money, "SHBM" firm "Omnitek-M" similar "opskorovskomu." Under it can be easy to put on the headphones. It is easy to fit, easy. Under the ZS-1 is necessary to wear a special hat, and if in the summer, the bandanna and a SHBM do not need, "- says officer of internal troops. At the same time SWAT MIA uses the same helmet OpScore American products to the Russian company "Armakom." "Who are working with the company on the final design of their products to suit our requirements. But it's a long process, at least a year ", - says police officer.
"We mainly use AK74M. It used to be a lot AKMSL, but now they are worn out and almost all retired. There are a number AK103, but the current cartridges 5, 45 (PP, BS, and so on. N.) Reduced the advantage of caliber 7, 62 to zero. And the accuracy of small-caliber automatic higher ammunition with an equal weight of more, "- said the Defense Ministry officer SPC. According to his colleagues from the internal security forces, in addition to AK74M SPC were AK-104: "Now we have them taken away, but we liked them. They are shorter, easier to manipulate them, to shower on his back, and so on. D. And range suits us. " There are armed with special forces and sub-machine guns. According to an employee of SWAT, his party has chosen SR-2M "Heather." It is lighter, more mobile and more powerful cartridge than that proposed by the PP "Vityaz". But in the internal troops of the Ministry of Defense and "Heathers" is not accustomed.
Another.
More.
"Heather."
Posted in [mergetime] 1403926143 [/ mergetime]
"Its CP 2M we immediately handed over - not by their explosive cartridges purchased. We use the PP-2000. They work "schitoviki" (soldiers walking with bulletproof shields. - Comm. Aut.). Submachine gun "Vityaz" also had, but the fighting was not used. There were technical problems with the constant utykaniem cartridges. Yes, and there is no problem where "Vityaz" better Kalashnikov "- says officer BB. The Defense Ministry SPC SR-2M is used as a second weapon sniper.
But the biggest headache and a source of fixed costs - modification on their own expense regular Kalashnikovs. "Put adjustable in length. Typically, this American "Magpul" or Israeli products. Put purchased DTC (muzzle brake-compensator. - Comm. Aut.), Reducing toss weapon, and some models and reduce the flash shot, which is very important when dealing with the PNV. Adapters with a Picatinny rail. The safety catch with an additional foot pedal for easy switching medium and / or index finger "- lists the purchase of the Defense Ministry special forces officer. So do the soldiers TSSN explosives and SWAT officers.
Here.
"Gentleman's set on each machine - a front handle, collimator sight and adjustable butt. If an employee is convenient, it still adds a pistol grip. Put the strap-adapters and Picatinny Weaver. "Ink" (muzzle brake-compensator. - Comm. Aut.) Is very necessary for night work is indispensable, "- said officer of the special forces of internal troops.
According to him, many of the collimator sights, proposed on the market of small arms, the center opted for products of American companies and Eotech Aimpoint.
More.
Posted in [mergetime] 1403926354 [/ mergetime]
«Eotech put on the machines, and Aimpoint - on guns. Russian and Belarusian sights do not like. The collimator is good with triple magnifier, but it's too expensive, so there is not at all "- says officer of internal troops. According to him, Reflex Sight need to treasure it, "Russia does not license the workshops of these firms, and to repair, especially if the matrix is broken, it is practically impossible».
SWAT Officer Interior Ministry said the publication "MIC", which in addition to its departments purchase of imported and domestic parts manufacturing company "Zenit": "We do not acquire all at his own expense, something gives us the Motherland. I would like to ACOG Scope company TriJicon, but they are too expensive, so we opted for products Aimpoint ».
Over the past four years, popular with Russian special forces began to cut field form ACU (Army Combat Uniform), adopted in 2008 to supply the Pentagon and a field different from the traditional form of a short jacket with stand-up collar and slanted breast pockets. It is also widely used by the American camouflage pattern "cartoons", jokingly called Russia's "cartoon».
«ACU convenient, just need pockets with buttons. This high-quality products from quality materials, although, of course, there are exceptions. Colour "cartoons" is well suited for areas where to work. And another point - in co-operation with the "fesnikami" (special forces of the FSB. - Comm. Aut.), Specialists from the Ministry of Interior, and others. It turns out that all dressed in the same shape, and there are no problems with recognition of each other, "- says officer Center Special Defense Ministry.
More.
According to his colleagues from the explosives in these troops are now abandoning colors "cartoons" in favor of "surpat» (SURPAT), developed by the Russian company "Housing of survival." "Cartoon" worse than in the woods, so officers take it for everyday wear, sometimes wear to class. Sometimes, using standard camouflage field uniform internal troops. But "surpat" in the cut ACU is very convenient, especially sewn knee pads. They do not pulls the leg do not violate the blood supply, "- explains the officer-commando.
SWAT Officer Ministry of Internal Affairs said that in his division also prefer field ACU, which is purchased from the British and American manufacturers, "Take the original form of the company CRYE. Our people are buying what they choose to wear. Something from the field form we get normally, but most of their funds to buy. " According to him, the use of colors "cartoons" allows you to quickly identify friendly units involved in the operation. Although this coloring is not optimal for the North Caucasus.
According to all the interlocutors, the big problem - shaped shoes, which can not be worn. And again, we have to buy their own, preferring to foreign products, not only for military purposes: demand and athletic shoes. Recently, the Ministry of Interior special forces explosives and more domestic companies like shoes "Faraday". "The uniform stilts walking impossible, and even life-threatening. Now there was a shoe "Faraday" no worse than imports, but much cheaper. That would have to supply it and we gave out nominally "- modest dreams officer of internal troops.
Night vision devices - it is a headache of the Russian special forces. On a question, do you think the Russian equipment adequate to the tasks, the officer of the Center for Special Defense Ministry said laconically: "bullied?».
According to the officer, the internal troops, his colleagues as possible prefer to buy imported goods, sometimes Belarusian "Filin". "To have good snipers regular Russian" bedside "DC-4 and DC-6. But they are in our heart a little. Who bought Russian PNV "Shaheen". We immediately told us that they do not fit. In the same "Cyclone" (producer - NGO "Cyclone") is much better, safer and easier. But BB Intelligence Agency decided that we are and will go "- outraged commando vnut-nal forces.
As all sides admitted that they acquire their units at their own expense and active earphones with built-in communications, reinforcing the weak sounds and extinguishing strong. Prefer headphones company Peltor.
"They are not always needed, but only under the task, or the rumor gets very quickly. For fun, try to enter the active headphones along a mountain stream in the forest or in high winds. But in the room or on the training of fire they are good, "- says officer Defense Ministry.
His colleague from the Internal Troops believes that action in the forest active headphones are required: "There they amplify sound and can be heard in advance of the enemy. Although I personally prefer regular headset ».
The ongoing counter-terrorism operations in the North Caucasus require the continued involvement of military personnel and special forces of law enforcement agencies. If at the beginning of the 90s the quality and quantity of equipment determines the possibility of agency, now even the elite Special Operations Center all depends on the thickness of purses themselves soldiers. It can be argued that foreign specialists spend their money, because every man chooses what is more convenient to fight. But one thing - Shoes and field uniforms, but when it comes to body armor, helmets, means of communication, "body kit" for weapons, there is already worth thinking about. The international market of armaments and equipment in the last 10-12 years is at the peak of activity. Russian companies, with rare exceptions there are not involved, although the military and law enforcement agencies gained enough combat experience, which can be implemented in new families of bullet-proof vests, communications equipment, headphones, and so active. D. At the same time the latest machines AEK-971 and AK-12 presented at trial without full collimator sights of domestic production. Although the same Belarus actively producing these products. We can only regret that the Foreign Ministry commandos supply and Russian - their families by donating money from the family budget.
In recent years, the protagonists of TV reports and photos from the North Caucasus have become soldiers of various special forces, has the task of combating the terrorist underground. In video and photo chronicle striking that the field uniforms, body armor, communications and so on. D. Special forces have different, so to speak, with the world on a string. In today's segment of the private production of tactical equipment and means of protection it is very dynamic. Even well-funded western division, the American "Delta", the British SAS and others buy for their money vending products. After all, clothing, gear, weapons and even more to the success of any operation. As things stand at the Russian security services, which have a problem that I would like to change? Armor is strong
"We use body armor 6B23. There are brand new 6B43, but very few of them, "- said the officer based in Moscow SPC Defense Ministry. According to him, most of the troops for their money buying imported products, mainly blankets, which are then sutured to be able to put domestic armor panels.
Source
Here.
And another.
Posted in [mergetime] 1403925730 [/ mergetime]
Colleagues from the Internal Troops are on the supply body armor design of the early 90-ies "Korund" ', but now began to supply modern "Baqarah." Just as in the Defense in BB buy foreign body armor, in particular US. However, popular domestic and "Defender" and "Redoubts».
SPC staff MIA protect various products of the company "Fort technology" and "Armakom." All interlocutors publication agreed that none of the types of body armor does not meet their requirements. We need not ordinary body armor and modular armor representing Vest ("discharge") with armor plates and the ability to install the necessary pouches under-performed tasks. Now these systems have become a mandatory attribute not only the special forces, and combined arms in many armies of the world.
Posted in [mergetime] 1403925773 [/ mergetime]
"We would like to have a full-time lightweight body armor plate carrier scheme such as the one that makes the company LBT and PIG-tactical. But since they do not, many people buy on their own and put armor panels "- says officer Defense Ministry. So do the Interior Troops. "The Americans have a good mounting system set c pouches called MOLLE. All quality, pouches hold securely. Something similar is done on "Bagara", however, quality is worse and pouches enough for only two or three sessions. But such body armor we have only 30-40 percent, "- complains officer of BB.
Posted in [mergetime] 1403925810 [/ mergetime]
But fellow SWAT MIA believes that domestic protective materials and better body armor protection classes higher than that of foreign products. But he recognizes the need for modular armor. All of the source publication do not meet established safety helmets. "As a chamber pot on his head pulled. We have to make a special case of landing, otherwise it may catch on the opening edge of the helmet straps. In our no mounts for night vision, lights and things like that, "- said the Defense Ministry officer SPC. Established ZS-1 do not like internal troops and "Altyn", "The Mask" and "Lynx-T" - employees of the Ministry of Interior SWAT.
Once.
Two.
Three.
Posted in [mergetime] 1403925940 [/ mergetime]
By all accounts, the best option a protective helmet standing on the supply of special forces around the world, designed by American firm OpScore.
"Very comfortable, well sit on the head, combined with glasses, headphones, oxygen mask, are streamlined," - said the representative of the Ministry of Defense. It is supported by colleagues from the Interior Ministry and Interior Ministry troops. "ZS-1 - this last century. We buy for their money, "SHBM" firm "Omnitek-M" similar "opskorovskomu." Under it can be easy to put on the headphones. It is easy to fit, easy. Under the ZS-1 is necessary to wear a special hat, and if in the summer, the bandanna and a SHBM do not need, "- says officer of internal troops. At the same time SWAT MIA uses the same helmet OpScore American products to the Russian company "Armakom." "Who are working with the company on the final design of their products to suit our requirements. But it's a long process, at least a year ", - says police officer.
"We mainly use AK74M. It used to be a lot AKMSL, but now they are worn out and almost all retired. There are a number AK103, but the current cartridges 5, 45 (PP, BS, and so on. N.) Reduced the advantage of caliber 7, 62 to zero. And the accuracy of small-caliber automatic higher ammunition with an equal weight of more, "- said the Defense Ministry officer SPC. According to his colleagues from the internal security forces, in addition to AK74M SPC were AK-104: "Now we have them taken away, but we liked them. They are shorter, easier to manipulate them, to shower on his back, and so on. D. And range suits us. " There are armed with special forces and sub-machine guns. According to an employee of SWAT, his party has chosen SR-2M "Heather." It is lighter, more mobile and more powerful cartridge than that proposed by the PP "Vityaz". But in the internal troops of the Ministry of Defense and "Heathers" is not accustomed.
Another.
More.
"Heather."
Posted in [mergetime] 1403926143 [/ mergetime]
"Its CP 2M we immediately handed over - not by their explosive cartridges purchased. We use the PP-2000. They work "schitoviki" (soldiers walking with bulletproof shields. - Comm. Aut.). Submachine gun "Vityaz" also had, but the fighting was not used. There were technical problems with the constant utykaniem cartridges. Yes, and there is no problem where "Vityaz" better Kalashnikov "- says officer BB. The Defense Ministry SPC SR-2M is used as a second weapon sniper.
But the biggest headache and a source of fixed costs - modification on their own expense regular Kalashnikovs. "Put adjustable in length. Typically, this American "Magpul" or Israeli products. Put purchased DTC (muzzle brake-compensator. - Comm. Aut.), Reducing toss weapon, and some models and reduce the flash shot, which is very important when dealing with the PNV. Adapters with a Picatinny rail. The safety catch with an additional foot pedal for easy switching medium and / or index finger "- lists the purchase of the Defense Ministry special forces officer. So do the soldiers TSSN explosives and SWAT officers.
Here.
"Gentleman's set on each machine - a front handle, collimator sight and adjustable butt. If an employee is convenient, it still adds a pistol grip. Put the strap-adapters and Picatinny Weaver. "Ink" (muzzle brake-compensator. - Comm. Aut.) Is very necessary for night work is indispensable, "- said officer of the special forces of internal troops.
According to him, many of the collimator sights, proposed on the market of small arms, the center opted for products of American companies and Eotech Aimpoint.
More.
Posted in [mergetime] 1403926354 [/ mergetime]
«Eotech put on the machines, and Aimpoint - on guns. Russian and Belarusian sights do not like. The collimator is good with triple magnifier, but it's too expensive, so there is not at all "- says officer of internal troops. According to him, Reflex Sight need to treasure it, "Russia does not license the workshops of these firms, and to repair, especially if the matrix is broken, it is practically impossible».
SWAT Officer Interior Ministry said the publication "MIC", which in addition to its departments purchase of imported and domestic parts manufacturing company "Zenit": "We do not acquire all at his own expense, something gives us the Motherland. I would like to ACOG Scope company TriJicon, but they are too expensive, so we opted for products Aimpoint ».
Over the past four years, popular with Russian special forces began to cut field form ACU (Army Combat Uniform), adopted in 2008 to supply the Pentagon and a field different from the traditional form of a short jacket with stand-up collar and slanted breast pockets. It is also widely used by the American camouflage pattern "cartoons", jokingly called Russia's "cartoon».
«ACU convenient, just need pockets with buttons. This high-quality products from quality materials, although, of course, there are exceptions. Colour "cartoons" is well suited for areas where to work. And another point - in co-operation with the "fesnikami" (special forces of the FSB. - Comm. Aut.), Specialists from the Ministry of Interior, and others. It turns out that all dressed in the same shape, and there are no problems with recognition of each other, "- says officer Center Special Defense Ministry.
More.
According to his colleagues from the explosives in these troops are now abandoning colors "cartoons" in favor of "surpat» (SURPAT), developed by the Russian company "Housing of survival." "Cartoon" worse than in the woods, so officers take it for everyday wear, sometimes wear to class. Sometimes, using standard camouflage field uniform internal troops. But "surpat" in the cut ACU is very convenient, especially sewn knee pads. They do not pulls the leg do not violate the blood supply, "- explains the officer-commando.
SWAT Officer Ministry of Internal Affairs said that in his division also prefer field ACU, which is purchased from the British and American manufacturers, "Take the original form of the company CRYE. Our people are buying what they choose to wear. Something from the field form we get normally, but most of their funds to buy. " According to him, the use of colors "cartoons" allows you to quickly identify friendly units involved in the operation. Although this coloring is not optimal for the North Caucasus.
According to all the interlocutors, the big problem - shaped shoes, which can not be worn. And again, we have to buy their own, preferring to foreign products, not only for military purposes: demand and athletic shoes. Recently, the Ministry of Interior special forces explosives and more domestic companies like shoes "Faraday". "The uniform stilts walking impossible, and even life-threatening. Now there was a shoe "Faraday" no worse than imports, but much cheaper. That would have to supply it and we gave out nominally "- modest dreams officer of internal troops.
Night vision devices - it is a headache of the Russian special forces. On a question, do you think the Russian equipment adequate to the tasks, the officer of the Center for Special Defense Ministry said laconically: "bullied?».
According to the officer, the internal troops, his colleagues as possible prefer to buy imported goods, sometimes Belarusian "Filin". "To have good snipers regular Russian" bedside "DC-4 and DC-6. But they are in our heart a little. Who bought Russian PNV "Shaheen". We immediately told us that they do not fit. In the same "Cyclone" (producer - NGO "Cyclone") is much better, safer and easier. But BB Intelligence Agency decided that we are and will go "- outraged commando vnut-nal forces.
As all sides admitted that they acquire their units at their own expense and active earphones with built-in communications, reinforcing the weak sounds and extinguishing strong. Prefer headphones company Peltor.
"They are not always needed, but only under the task, or the rumor gets very quickly. For fun, try to enter the active headphones along a mountain stream in the forest or in high winds. But in the room or on the training of fire they are good, "- says officer Defense Ministry.
His colleague from the Internal Troops believes that action in the forest active headphones are required: "There they amplify sound and can be heard in advance of the enemy. Although I personally prefer regular headset ».
The ongoing counter-terrorism operations in the North Caucasus require the continued involvement of military personnel and special forces of law enforcement agencies. If at the beginning of the 90s the quality and quantity of equipment determines the possibility of agency, now even the elite Special Operations Center all depends on the thickness of purses themselves soldiers. It can be argued that foreign specialists spend their money, because every man chooses what is more convenient to fight. But one thing - Shoes and field uniforms, but when it comes to body armor, helmets, means of communication, "body kit" for weapons, there is already worth thinking about. The international market of armaments and equipment in the last 10-12 years is at the peak of activity. Russian companies, with rare exceptions there are not involved, although the military and law enforcement agencies gained enough combat experience, which can be implemented in new families of bullet-proof vests, communications equipment, headphones, and so active. D. At the same time the latest machines AEK-971 and AK-12 presented at trial without full collimator sights of domestic production. Although the same Belarus actively producing these products. We can only regret that the Foreign Ministry commandos supply and Russian - their families by donating money from the family budget.
